martha: what do you think it tells us about the obama administration's policy towards the war on terror? >> i think a couple of things. they don't want to get their fingers dirty. they don't want american casualties. known wants that. the problem i think is three in the whole drone war idea, number one we may have been very good at the very beginning when we were taking out key people in very difficult to reach parts of pakistan and afghanistan but we've now expanded that drone war and are the third thing martha that worries me probably more than anything we are lowering the threshold of when we use force. it's an important thing to have americans in the loop. by doing something where no americans are at risk. martha: it negates your ability to get intelligence from any of these individuals. >> yeah, they are dead. martha: we know the president is not fond of the gitmo model. it raises a lot of questions about the most useful way to apprehend people and get information from them. as far as we know, right we are talking about anwar al-awlaki, and american-born citizen who we know was an